Posts by Sour Grapes

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Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

by OrphanCrow in

and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

Sour Grapes

So, the beautiful plush assembly hall in Indianapolis is sold for a couple of million, which was paid for and refurbished by the JW's from all of the surounding circuits. Now if they decide to build a new assembly hall will the WTBTS tell the brothers, "Don't worry brothers, we got you covered for the money to build a new hall." Or will there be another push for more donations and personal loans to build another assembly hall to be sold after 20 years? And by the way the brothers have to spend their weekends, vacations, and evenings working on building the new hall to replace one that was very nice and paid for. The brothers pay for it, the brothers build it, the WTBTS owns it. Sounds fair to me.

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Mega-Church buys JW Assembly Hall property in Indianapolis

by OrphanCrow in

and yet another sale of watchtower property.... http://www.ibj.com/articles/59973-suburban-mega-church-expanding-into-downtown-with-big-purchase.

suburban megachurch expanding into downtown with big purchasea historic church building at the corner of 12th and delaware streets has been purchased by a large congregation expanding into the downtown area.. traders point christian church in whitestown is spending $2 million to renovate the 35,300-square-foot structure and should have it ready for worship early next year, rev.

james stanley said.. the neoclassical, limestone building has been used as a place of worship since it was built in 1912 and had been owned by the jehovah’s witnesses since 1978.. the location at 1201 n. delaware st., across from the benjamin harrison presidential site, will be the third for traders point.

Sour Grapes

What gets me is the circuits that used the beautiful hall in Indy are having their assemblies now in the Indiana State University basketball fieldhouse and they think that it is a blessing from Jehovah because now three circuits can meet at one time due to the larger seating capacity. I can say that chairs at ISU are not as comfortable as the plush seats they they had in the Indy assembly hall. There were promises made three years ago about building a new assembly halll in southwest Ohio. I wonder if that is going to happen now or will the blessings from Jehovah continue by renting a basketball court.

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I have to get this off my chest...cult equals guilible

by Sour Grapes in

two weeks ago while visiting a friend in north carolina, i agreed to go with him to the sunday public talk.

the public talk was about how the witnesses have the direction of angels while going in service.

the speaker told some real doozies and you could hear the "oohs and ahhs" from the audience.

Sour Grapes

When something good happens it is angelic direction, when something bad happens it is due to time and unforeseen occurrencses befall us all.

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I have to get this off my chest...cult equals guilible

by Sour Grapes in

two weeks ago while visiting a friend in north carolina, i agreed to go with him to the sunday public talk.

the public talk was about how the witnesses have the direction of angels while going in service.

the speaker told some real doozies and you could hear the "oohs and ahhs" from the audience.

Sour Grapes

Two weeks ago while visiting a friend in North Carolina, I agreed to go with him to the Sunday public talk. The public talk was about how the Witnesses have the direction of angels while going in service. The speaker told some real doozies and you could hear the "oohs and ahhs" from the audience. Let me tell you two stories that made want me to stand up and scream at everyone. You can see if the stories have the ring of truth.

Two brothers while in service in New York City were in an apartment building in the lobby pushing the intercom buttons to see if someone would answer from the appartments. One lady answered and asked the two brothers where were they and the brothers replied they were in the lobby. The lady question them again and they repeated they were in the lobby. Well the lady did not live in the building and somehow the brothers when they pushed the buzzer for the intercom connected to the the ladies cellphone in a different building and she jsut happened to want a Bible study. I thought the audience was going to start clapping.

The second experience was a lady several years ago was given the phone number of a witness who called on her and let the householder know if she ever wanted to reconcider her offer for a free home Bible study to give the witness a call. A few years passed and the lady went trough a rough patch in live and she thought that she needs to study the Bible. She forgot where she put the phone number of the Witness. One day the lady goes to the library and borrowed some books to read. She took the book home. Low and behold one of the books she actually already borrowed several years ago and when she picked it up the phone number from the witness fell out from where she placed it when she first had the book. A Bible study was started and she is now a Sister. The Witnesses were now getting very giddy.

There were more experiences but you get the gists of it. For all of these things to happen it just had to be Jehovah God was using his angels to find those hungering for the Truth. What more proof would we need. I just sat there realizing that being in a cult makes one stupid and terribly gullible.

I wanted to take the platform and bring everyone down to earth with the following stories:

In December 2012, a charter bus with 32 JW's going to an assembly on it slammed in an overpass at the Miami Airport killing three Witnesses.

September 2015, in Dallas Texas, four Witnesses leaving the Sunday meeting in a car were hit broadside killing everyone in the car.

In 2007, five elders on the Regional Building Committee were killed in Elizabethton, TN when their small plane crashed going to visit a hall about a new Kingdom Hall.

Novembe 2017 in Honduras. A bus load of 69 Jehovah's Witnesses crashes over a hillside killing 14 Witnesses and injuring over 50 more of them.

So let's recap...angels can make an appartment buzzer ring a ladies phone in a different building and they they make a lady borrow a book she borrowed already several years ago so that a phone number could fall out of it but they could not tell a bus driver he was going the wrong way. The angels could not have had the sisters leaving the Sunday meeting be delayed by a few seconds so the car that slammed into them would have gone by already. Why didn't the five elders on the Building Committee just drive a car or wait for better weather. And of course the bus in Honduras. Certainly the angels could have arranged for a better driver of the bus.

So in the talk several people, because of the hand of God, became Bible studies and in the new stories I mentioned 26 Witnessed died serving God. You tell me if you believe in angelic direction.

The above just makes my Sour Grapes

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What novels have you been reading recently? Recommend any?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i've always been a bit of a reader - but only reading about topics i find interesting, e.g.

natural history, dinosaurs, etc.. recently i've started to select, buy and read novels.. this year i've bought and read frankenstein (mary shelly), dracula (bram stoker), the hound of the baskervilles (a. conan doyle), 'salem's lot (stephen king), jurassic park (michael crichton) and the firm (john grisham).. i have an inclination towards horrors and thrillers.. what fiction have you been reading?.

could you recommend anything?.

Sour Grapes

I am reading a very interesting ebook written by Harlan J. Hunter. It is called "The Son of a Gun Has a Frog In His Throat."

Sour Grapes

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Beards - September 2016 Watchtower

by Listener in

the issue of whether beards are acceptable or not is addressed in the september 2016 watchtower - well sort of.

it is as clear as mud as to whether they are allowed in places like australia, usa and britain.. 17. what are some factors that may affect whether a brother wears a beard?17 what about the propriety of brothers wearing a beard?

the mosaic law required men to wear a beard.

Sour Grapes

If men are not supposed to have beards then why did the Creator put facial hair on men?

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A picture is worth a thousand words

by Sour Grapes in

i just love this picture that i saw on a post from yesterday.

i am the guy in the middle.

my wife and her family are under the umbrellas.

Sour Grapes

My favorite thing in the Awake were the little new clips in the back called "Watching the News." How the Borg has changed from pre-1975 compared to today. I used to love calling on ministers to debate them. The JW's today can't defend their beliefs. 99% can not explain the overlapping generations or why 1914 is so important to the Borg and the sad thing is they really don't care,

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A picture is worth a thousand words

by Sour Grapes in

i just love this picture that i saw on a post from yesterday.

i am the guy in the middle.

my wife and her family are under the umbrellas.

Sour Grapes

I just love this picture that I saw on a post from yesterday. I am the guy in the middle. My wife and her family are under the umbrellas. I told my wife that the meetings are so depressing with all of the gloom and doom. For over 40 years the theme of the meetings has been the end is so close so don't buy any green bananas and if you aren't a JW you will die at Armageddon.

I remember sitting in the hot sun at the summer district assembly in 1974. The highlight of all assemblies back in the day was the last talk on Sunday afternoon. The entire audience was on pins and needles just chomping at the bit, eager for news about next year 1975. We all were waiting for what the speaker would say about next years assemblies. Finally the speaker got to the point and we all held our breath. "Next year, If it be Jehovah's will, we have district assemblies." Right then I knew I had been scammed.

For years 7 out of 10 public talks on Sunday have 30% of the beginning of the talk cover just how terrible world conditions are with lots of details on the number of murders, rapes, wars, starvation, etc. It is just so depressing, but fear not the answer is God's Kingdom which will soon, just around the corner soon, take place and our loving God will destroy 99.9% of the worlds population. But don't feel bad, the wicked were given ample warning. Remember how the householder was offered the Watchtower and Awake by a pimpley faced teenager, and they refused the magazine. (had no interest in rock gardens or the benefits of fresh oranges.) How many times did they have a witness when we walked in their neighborhoods. They hid from us and peaked out of they blinds, but we knew and Jehovah knew they were there. They see us standing by our carts with our literature and yet they still refuse to become a part of God's loving earthy organization.

The meetings are more joyless than the waiting room in a hospital emergency waiting room. I have never seen so many people rejoice when something bad happens, proving the end is near. Don't you just love it when there is an earthquake and 5,000 people die and what gets mentioned from the platform, "we are sorry to say that 5 witnesses died and three kingdom halls were destroyed."

I just hope that more and more witnesses wake up and be like me without the umbrella.

Sour Grapes

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Convention coming to a city near YOU...

by Sugar Shane in

...and it's our duty to warn non-jws, or half awake jws about these events, as they start appearing in newspapers throughout the us, and abroad.

it almost comes out as a promotional ad for the jw convention.

the 'current events' editing staff of this paper likely has no idea what their promoting.

Sour Grapes

Yes loyalty to the Governing Body. The prayers at the KH mention the Governing Body more than Jesus. All that our Savior gets is an in Jesus name.

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Medal of Valor given by Obama to JW Grandmother - Check her Lapel Pin

by Da.Furious in

this grandmother found the best way to advertise jw.org by wearing a huge lapel pin.. .

some of the comments are really interesting.. link to article:.

http://www.phillyvoice.com/obama-award-medal-valor-family-slain-philadelphia-police-officer-robert-wilson-iii-monday/.

Sour Grapes

I will guess that she will be interviewed at this summers convention because of the fine witness she gave to the world and to the President. I would not be surprised if she also counted her time while she wore her badge of honor. The company that sells the JW Org badges will see a spike in business. The badges will get bigger. To boost hours reported in field service, no doubt time will be counted for badge time.

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